Dud Tomatos.

[mylorace]

Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know that
store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and can
accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I have
had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a waste of
time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

[Phred]

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know that
store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and can
accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I have
had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a waste of
time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

How ya gunna know when the flavour comes back?

Cheers, Phred.

[Barb]

When I was down in Sydney recently the tomatoes, in fact most vegetables
tasted much better than these pathetic excuse for vegetables we find here in
Brisbane!!
If it wasn't for the markets I would have given up fresh vegetables and gone
to frozen ones
Barb

Post by Phred

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know that
store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and can
accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I have
had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a waste of
time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

How ya gunna know when the flavour comes back?
Cheers, Phred.
--

[Flowergirl]

Post by Barb
When I was down in Sydney recently the tomatoes, in fact most vegetables
tasted much better than these pathetic excuse for vegetables we find here in
Brisbane!!

Might have something to do with the local supply being almost non-existent
at the moment.
I got offered a taste of a *Mexican* mango last week. I declined the offer.
The strawbs from Wamuran have been nice though.

...and I don't think winter tomatoes are ever any good - I stick to the
grape toms in winter as they are the only ones with any flavour.

Post by Barb
If it wasn't for the markets I would have given up fresh vegetables and gone
to frozen ones
Barb

I'm finding it hard without my vege patch this year :(

Amanda

[Liz]

Post by Flowergirl

Post by Barb
When I was down in Sydney recently the tomatoes, in fact most vegetables
tasted much better than these pathetic excuse for vegetables we find here

in

Post by Barb
Brisbane!!

Might have something to do with the local supply being almost non-existent
at the moment.
I got offered a taste of a *Mexican* mango last week. I declined the offer.
The strawbs from Wamuran have been nice though.
...and I don't think winter tomatoes are ever any good - I stick to the
grape toms in winter as they are the only ones with any flavour.

Post by Barb
If it wasn't for the markets I would have given up fresh vegetables and

gone

Post by Barb
to frozen ones
Barb

I'm finding it hard without my vege patch this year :(
Amanda

I stick to the tinned ones in winter - like you say, the fresh ones are
tasteless. In fact, the tinned ones are often better even in summer :-(

Liz C

[Barb]

Except Liz cans are loaded with too much salt or alternatives which still
are not good for your body.
Barb

Post by Liz

Post by Flowergirl

Post by Barb
When I was down in Sydney recently the tomatoes, in fact most vegetables
tasted much better than these pathetic excuse for vegetables we find here

in

Post by Barb
Brisbane!!

Might have something to do with the local supply being almost
non-existent
at the moment.
I got offered a taste of a *Mexican* mango last week. I declined the offer.
The strawbs from Wamuran have been nice though.
...and I don't think winter tomatoes are ever any good - I stick to the
grape toms in winter as they are the only ones with any flavour.

Post by Barb
If it wasn't for the markets I would have given up fresh vegetables and

gone

Post by Barb
to frozen ones
Barb

I'm finding it hard without my vege patch this year :(
Amanda

I stick to the tinned ones in winter - like you say, the fresh ones are
tasteless. In fact, the tinned ones are often better even in summer :-(
Liz C

[Nina Pretty Ballerina]

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know
that store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and
can accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I
have had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a waste
of time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

there is definitely a lack of tomatoes around at the moment, i guess i have
taken the recent all year round tomatoes for granted...

[unknown]

Post by Nina Pretty Ballerina

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know
that store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and
can accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I
have had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a waste
of time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

there is definitely a lack of tomatoes around at the moment, i guess i have
taken the recent all year round tomatoes for granted...

Growing them in pots is easy , I have so anyone can and they really do
taste the best .

[Jeßus]

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know that
store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and can
accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I have
had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a waste of
time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

One thing that should be noted here is that the real question is what
tomato *varieties* are being used?

It's true that organic and/or good quality cultivation only helps
flavour, but if the grower is using varieties that have been bred for
commercial benefits rather than end user benefits (ie; flavour!) then no
amount of care and attention in growing will result in a nice tasting
tomato.

The only real solution is to seek out the old varieties and grow them
yourself.
--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

- Epicurus

[Barb]

I can see an order going to Diggers who have wonderful old seeds.
Cheers Barb

Post by Jeßus

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know
that store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and
can accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I
have had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a
waste of time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

One thing that should be noted here is that the real question is what
tomato *varieties* are being used?
It's true that organic and/or good quality cultivation only helps flavour,
but if the grower is using varieties that have been bred for commercial
benefits rather than end user benefits (ie; flavour!) then no amount of
care and attention in growing will result in a nice tasting tomato.
The only real solution is to seek out the old varieties and grow them
yourself.
--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
- Epicurus

[giarcgood]

Post by Barb
I can see an order going to Diggers who have wonderful old seeds.
Cheers Barb

Post by Jeßus
The only real solution is to seek out the old varieties and grow them
yourself.

I bought my Dad a good gardening book a couple of years ago. Can't
remember the name though. It was pretty basic and it wasn't until I read
it thoroughly that I realised it was talking about growing old varieties
and gave some good recommendations.

One thing I liked was that it wasn't ranting about growing older
varieties, or all veggies. It had a reasonable tone. For example it said
not to worry about growing corn as it is a bit tricky and the
improvement over store bought wasn't enough to worry about. I think this
was the only one it said that about though.

I will find it next week and post the name. I am might have to 'borrow'
it for an extended time actually.

[Jeßus]

Post by giarcgood

Post by Barb
I can see an order going to Diggers who have wonderful old seeds.
Cheers Barb

Post by Jeßus
The only real solution is to seek out the old varieties and grow them
yourself.

I bought my Dad a good gardening book a couple of years ago. Can't
remember the name though. It was pretty basic and it wasn't until I read
it thoroughly that I realised it was talking about growing old varieties
and gave some good recommendations.
One thing I liked was that it wasn't ranting about growing older
varieties, or all veggies. It had a reasonable tone. For example it said
not to worry about growing corn as it is a bit tricky and the
improvement over store bought wasn't enough to worry about. I think this
was the only one it said that about though.
I will find it next week and post the name. I am might have to 'borrow'
it for an extended time actually.

Yeah, I don't bother growing anything that tends to be difficult, and
stick to the stuff that thrives here, and a few things that are hard to
buy but will still grow without too much effort. But there's still a lot
to be said for some of the older varieties IMO - that doesnt mean all
new varieties are bad of course.

[Chookie]

Post by giarcgood
One thing I liked was that it wasn't ranting about growing older
varieties, or all veggies. It had a reasonable tone. For example it said
not to worry about growing corn as it is a bit tricky and the
improvement over store bought wasn't enough to worry about. I think this
was the only one it said that about though.

Sorry to piggyback, but I only just reread this and there is a VAST difference
between shop corn and fresh corn! It's a hungry, thirsty plant that needs
block planting to produce well -- but shop corn has nothing on the flavour of
just-picked sweet corn. Roll on, summer...

[Jeßus]

Post by Barb

Post by Jeßus

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know
that store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and
can accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I
have had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a
waste of time .
With organic (a bit of a con), macrobiotic, vine ripened, or hydroponics
grown, the taste is the same , very ordinary.
Until there is some semblance of flavour I will be boycotting Tomatoes.

One thing that should be noted here is that the real question is what
tomato *varieties* are being used?
It's true that organic and/or good quality cultivation only helps flavour,
but if the grower is using varieties that have been bred for commercial
benefits rather than end user benefits (ie; flavour!) then no amount of
care and attention in growing will result in a nice tasting tomato.
The only real solution is to seek out the old varieties and grow them
yourself.

I can see an order going to Diggers who have wonderful old seeds.

They certainly do :)

[Chookie]

Post by mylorace
Is it just me , or is the current Tomato crop sub standard , yes I know that
store bought Tomatoes have been losing there flavour for years , and can
accept that , but over the last six weeks or so , All the Tomatoes I have
had have been so lacking in any sort of flavour that they are a waste of
time .

It's winter. I never buy "fresh" tomatoes in winter. Use tinned. And if you
check the label you can see what's in it, Barb -- the ones I get are usually
Annalisa or La Gina. There are some with added citric acid and other oddities
-- eeeeewwww!